A womans role in the church is what YHWH says it is. in jer 31 it says he is doing a new thing a woman shall compass a man. Now i dont know what that means spiritually. I am a mother of 11 children my husband does not teach them the word of YHWH AT ALL, I always encourage him to but he refuses. i have been led by YHWH to teach and pray for and with my children. If i did not do it my husband would allow our children to not hear of YHWH in their lives . I have been called to minister in our home YHWH has led me to. I do the training and teaching. YHWH has said i am a priest in the home we are all a part of the royal priesthood. Now when YAHSHA rose from the dead the first person to look for HIM was a woman, Mary Magdaleane He told her to go to His bretheren to tell that he was risen they did not believe her ,probably because she was a woman and had had seven demons cast out of her. YAHSHA rebuked them for their unbelief, I feel like this, since Mary the mother of YAHSHA carried HIM nine months she ought to have somthing to say about it.
Indeed clareathyah, Yahweh's Word is to have preeminence in our lives, Matt 4:4. I think you're doing the right thing in teaching your children to go in the way they should. After all, what was said about Timothy? Wasn't he taught from childhood about Yahweh's Word? (2 Tim 3:15-16) Who was it that taught him? Wasn't it his mother and grandmother? (2 Tim 1:5)
In context, Jer 31:22 seems to be speaking of the "woman" as being Israel. By the way, today we, as you probably know, are being grafted in, Rom 11:17; Jer 11:16-17. The "Man" is probably an allusion to the coming Messiah (Husband of the symbolic future bride, Rev 19:7). Jeremiah 31 and Ezekiel 36 both speak of the New Covenant, in the sense that the Spirit given today will help us succeed in being obedient to Yahweh. Not all of these prophesies are yet completed, but since Acts chapter 2 when we read of the Spirit being given to stay, I think we now see we are given the opportunity to succeed where ancient Israel had failed.
I still dont understand what you mean about an allusion to the coming messiah. it says unfaithful daughter and a woman why didnt it say the same words?
The Hebrew has been called a “flowery language.” In other words, it has color and depth. It may be that the “unfaithful daughter” is seen as a maturing “woman” once recognizing her faults, repenting, and coming to the Savior for forgiveness.
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I have a question about headcoverings - nowwhere are we commanded to cover our heads (in the Tanakh) , however, Shaul( not Paul) in his letter to Corinthians is alluding to the fact that women should cover their heads , and with careful study one might realise that cover and head does not neccesarily mean what one might think.
Is there any way a woman might not have to wear a headcovering while praying (even if she has short or long hair)?
Welcome to the forum. The Apostle Paul indicates that he is keeping with the accepted traditions (1 Cor 11:2) which were already in place at that time, 2 Thes 2:15; 3:6. However, It’s evident that the tradition goes back much farther. Rebecca, for example, covered herself in anticipation of meeting Isaac (Gen 24:65), her future husband.
Concerning the wording used in 1 Cor 11:15, “Her hair is given to her for a covering,” Dr. Charles C. Ryrie points out in his Study Bible, “This is not the same word used as that used in verses 5-6. The point here is that as the hair represents the proper covering in the natural realm, so the veil is the proper covering in the religious.” Though we don’t find a direct command, we find this whole section in the N.T. describing how proper it is for women to have their head/hair covered during worship. We can’t ignore it.
Frescos from one of the oldest synagogues ever discovered (Dura Europas, 2nd century C.E.), and other archeological finds, give evidence that head coverings were in use. Interestingly enough, the tradition today among Jews of wearing tallets/tzit-tzits on the outside of their clothing is nonexistent in the images, which gives the idea that they went on the four corners of the inner garment instead. The Pharisaical Jews, in Yahshua's day, evidently ran them long out the bottom of their robes to be seen by men.
David wrote: "Frescos from one of the oldest synagogues ever discovered (Dura Europas, 2nd century C.E.), and other archeological finds, give evidence that head coverings were in use. Interestingly enough, the tradition today among Jews of wearing tallets/tzit-tzits on the outside of their clothing is nonexistent in the images, which gives the idea that they went on the four corners of the inner garment instead. The Pharisaical Jews, in Yahshua's day, evidently ran them long out the bottom of their robes to be seen by men."
Shalom David,
Pardon me for continuing to take the topic further off track, but I'm wondering a few things about the relevance of wearing the tzitziyot. Coming from a "Christian" background, I know nothing about inner vs outter hebrew garments. If I were to start wearing my tzitziyot from the four corners of my t-shirt (under shirt), how would I be able to see them to help me remember and guard our Father's teachings? Numbers 15:38-39. From what I gathered in Matthew 23:5 "And they do all their works to be seen by men, and they make their t’fillen wide and lengthen the tzitziyot of their garments..." was they went to an extreme length with the tzitziyot to "appear" set-apart in front of men. I think we both would agree that the tzitziyot is intended for the one wearing them. It's part of a personal relationship with Yahweh. Others may still see them, but they aren't to be worn to "show off" and make make people think we're righteous just by wearing them. I'm just not sure I would be able to see them for the reminders I need to point me in the right direction. I do tend to wear them in a way to not make them obvious but they are visible if one searches them.
BTW I'm new to the site and really enjoy the Revealing the Truth series. I have other questions I'll post in appropriate spots.
On a similar note, how many of us married couples have come into Torah (through Messiah) just ourselves while our spouse has not? I've been married 10 years. The first 8 of these 10 years I was a convert to Mormonism (LDS). I converted on my own and five months later met my bride. The Father called me out of Babylon two years ago but she resists leaving the LDS. There is a lot of heart-ache I go through because our children are being raised LDS. She isn't opposed to me observing Torah, but there is still conflict in the home when I attempt to bring it to order through a Torah based environment. Praise Yahweh she is willing to read the Scriptures starting from Genesis. She is also willing to let go of the LDS doctrines if after reading the Scriptures and gaining a testimony as the authority of Yah's Word. Please pray for her and that the Father will continue to call her out.
Does anyone have similar stories regarding the role of the wife of a Believer but isn't herself?
Thanks for sharing and for the inquiry concerning the inner versus outer garments. Concerning marriage, it’s sometimes a very difficult situation among married couples who have differing beliefs. I trust this is one of the reasons why we have instructions, if single, to only marry within the body of Messiah, 1 Cor 7:39. If one is already married when coming into the faith, then the example of the believer may win over the other to the faith. But, even if that doesn’t happen, there is a blessing from Yahweh in the marriage, 1 Cor 7:14.
Wearing of tassels was a tool that Yahweh gave the people to remind them of and to keep His laws. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind if they will wear them today since the Spirit is now given for the very same purpose, Ezek 36:26-27. It should also be mentioned that if one pushes past the Spirit of Yahweh to break the law, the tassels on belt loops will not help at all. In other words, the invisible Spirit is stronger for us today than the visible tassels were for ancient Israel.
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